vectra temperature gauge

Discussion in 'Vectra' started by AL_M, Apr 24, 2004.

  1. AL_M

    AL_M Guest

    hi all just bought a second hand 1997 vectra 1.8 ls
    don't know of it's a problem or not
    but the engine temperature gauge
    anyone know what value this should sit at seems to sit top end of gauge
    without SO FAR going off the scale
    scale reads from 80-100 with red being a little above the hundred on the
    dial
    my car seems to run between 90 and 100 all the time when warm and sometimes
    edging over the 100 at traffic lights etc

    as an aside
    I never got a user manual with the car :-(
    does anyone know of anywhere online I could download and print one
    or will I have to resort to me local vhaul dealer to buy one ?

    thx for all and any help guys ( and girls )
     
    AL_M, Apr 24, 2004
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  2. AL_M

    mike Guest

    how about a flush of the system

    mike

     
    mike, Apr 24, 2004
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  3. AL_M

    AL_M Guest

    yeah that's definitely an option
    IF its a problem as I say never had a vectra before so don't know what
    normal is
    so at moment seeking advice on whether I have a problem
    before I try to sort one I might not have :)
     
    AL_M, Apr 24, 2004
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    mike Guest

    i'd certainly try it, an easy answer if it is!
    i dont own a vectra but i do a sintra with 2.2 that trundles along quite
    happily at always about 70deg

    mike
     
    mike, Apr 24, 2004
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  5. AL_M

    malcolm Guest

    As with most cars, the thermostat is set to open at 92degrees. the fan will
    cut in at approx. 105degrees. There may well be some slight variation from
    these figures, as this is only a guideline. The figures you have given
    appear normal.
     
    malcolm, Apr 25, 2004
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    Jon Guest

    well i have a vectra 2.0 sri, around town (in traffic etc) the temp is
    around 80-90 and has never gone above that, when going along the
    motorway/bypass on my way to work it rarely goes above 80. the fan kicks in
    at around 90-95

    hope that helps
     
    Jon, Apr 25, 2004
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    malcolm Guest

    Jon, I don't wish to appear pedantic, but I have 30-years experience as an
    engine tech. If your engine coolant stays at 80C, it is too low. There can
    be some inaccuracies in the gauge and sensor, as these are only for driver
    awareness. Cooler running engines will wear out much faster than those
    running at the designed temperature. If you suspect the true temperature is
    80C, I would recommend it is tested with a pyrometer.
     
    malcolm, Apr 25, 2004
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    EggNChips Guest

    I have a related problem, I have a '99 2.2 petrol Frontera and the guage
    sits happily at 85 until prolonged idling. It then jumps up to high
    nineties in the space of a couple of seconds and returns back to 85 just as
    quickly.

    Now I know that the head gasket has just been done, so I don't think it's
    that, but when it jumps up the heater also goes cold, I'm thinking an air
    lock in the system, anybody got any other ideas??????
     
    EggNChips, Apr 26, 2004
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  9. AL_M

    AL_M Guest

    "
    as an update had a look at it for a bit yesterday let the water boil out a
    bit
    then topped up to see if I could let air out as suggested by someone
    still idles high temp
    fan comes on as needle passes the 100C mark
    and goes off when temp comes back down to 90C
    haven't took the car a drive yet since as I wont be taxing it till end of
    week
    not buying a months tax for a couple of day :)
    yes I'm Scottish
    but really from the conflicting advice given
    still cant determine if I have a problem or not
    I'll prob run it for a week or two with one eye fixed on the temp gauge
    and if I still feel insecure about it or if it ever goes into red
    I'll take it to be looked at
    thanks though for all the help
    I'm a newbie in here and have to say your a courteous helpful bunch of souls
     
    AL_M, Apr 26, 2004
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  10. AL_M

    malcolm Guest

    Remembering that there are some slight inaccuracies in gauge readings. it
    sounds as if A) the voltage stabiliser is defective, or B) the alternator is
    overcharging. If, indeed, this problem occurs in a matter of a couple of
    seconds, it is more likely to be a gauge fault, rather than a genuine
    mechanical problem.
    For anyone else who is concerned about overheating, there has been a number
    of occasions when we have run Vauxhalls over 120C, without any problem. I
    would NOT suggest sustained running at these temperatures however.
    Many garages use non-contact infra-red pyrometers, which are extremely
    accurate, and it shouldn't cost too much for them to confirm the true
    temperature.
     
    malcolm, Apr 26, 2004
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    airsmoothed Guest

    Well I've owned half a dozen vauxhalls, plus I've driven several
    others, and the 'normal' operating temperature on all of these has
    been between 91 and 94 on the guage : for example my 1.8 cavalier only
    had the electric fan cut in about half a dozen times during the
    100,000 miles I drove it!

    My V6 Omega does reach above 95 & the fan cuts in; but only if I've
    been on a long motorway thrash and then hit the back of a queue; but
    that's the worst case Vauxhall I've ever owned.

    So it seems to me your 1.8 Vectra does sound like it has a problem
    with thermal stability; my first guesses would be either the
    thermostat is not opening properly or the radiator is getting gunged
    up. Does the internal heater work properly :do you get very hot air
    out of the cabin vents after a few minutes?
     
    airsmoothed, Apr 27, 2004
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    steveb Guest

    Listen to Malcolm .... this is normal.

    steveb
     
    steveb, Apr 27, 2004
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    Martin Guest

    IME that completely stops the fan. Doesn't matter though, cos it also
    drains the radiator :)
     
    Martin, Apr 27, 2004
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    Alan Guest

    When I hit the back of a motorway queue I never checked the temperature. I
    was concerned about the condition of the front of my car and whether I would
    ever get recovered off the motorway!

    --

    Alan


    New & used Vauxhall cars & vans, servicing, repairs & parts
    www.steeles.co.uk
     
    Alan, Apr 27, 2004
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    AL_M Guest

    heater seems to be fine but haven't drove it much yet to firmly determine
    one 70 mile run and couple of wee ten or twenty mile ones is all ive done so
    far
     
    AL_M, Apr 27, 2004
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    AL_M Guest

    thank you
     
    AL_M, Apr 27, 2004
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    airsmoothed Guest

    I was waiting for somebody to say that ;-)....Yes I did manage to do
    that once; hit the back of a Heineken lorry at about 5 mph with my
    Carlton 3.0 12v estate :-(((. Written off & replaced with the Omega
    2.5 V6 estate, which IMHO feels like a much slower car ( despite
    similar bph) but the Omega does have a nice powerful aircon.
     
    airsmoothed, Apr 28, 2004
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    Martin Guest

    Excellent judgement - should have been just enough to release the tail-gate
    locks :)

    (sympathy re. the Carlton though)
     
    Martin, Apr 28, 2004
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    Lordy Guest

    Carlton 3.0 12v estate :-(((. Written off & replaced with the Omega
    But not similiar weight :)
     
    Lordy, Apr 28, 2004
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    airsmoothed Guest

    Yes....being a Real Ale drinker I thought hitting a heineken lorry was
    particularly galling: whilst waiting for recovery about a dozen work
    colleages drove past rubbernecking, including my boss; who then went
    on to mention the incident later at a meeting in front of about 60
    people. Still: nice to provide my coworkers with a cheap laugh.

    I was tempted to buy back the Carlton from the insurers, but they
    offered me significantly more than it was worth; and I needed a car
    for commuting, so couldn't really spend weeks messing about. I do
    really miss the low down torque of the 3.0 12v engine though ( it was
    virtually impossible to stall, which was probably my downfall during
    the heineken incident), and the double decker glove box you could
    actually store stuff in. Don't miss thye lack of aircon though.
     
    airsmoothed, Apr 28, 2004
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