Oxygen sensors

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Mike, Jan 4, 2006.

  1. Mike

    Mike Guest

    I have heard that O2 sensors can deteriate over time and start increasing
    fuel consumption without triggering any alarms/waring lights. Does anyone
    have any information or opinions on this?

    Cheers

    Mike
     
    Mike, Jan 4, 2006
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  2. Mike

    airsmoothed Guest

    Well I have just developed an oxygen sensor problem on my Omega, at
    least the blink codes suggest " oxygegn sensor no connection". Funnily
    enough if I drive the car for a few miles, then stop and restart the
    EML goes out.

    The reason I mention this is when I'm motorway cruising with the EML
    on, and the ECU presumably guessing the lamda, I return 40- 42 mpg -
    engine temperature a couple of degrees above normal. Doing the same
    thing after a stop start, so that the EML is out & the ECU 'happy', I
    return 34 mpg.

    This suggests to me :-
    1) I need to replace my oxygen sensor - that looks like afun job
    without a pit / ramps.
    2) The sensor can give values quite along way from correct, hence
    screwing my mpg, without activating the EML.
     
    airsmoothed, Jan 6, 2006
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  3. Mike

    mikeFNB Guest

    I would be inclined to check the connector
    unplug it and make sure the terminals are not blackened
    a quick squirt of switch cleaner (pref not wd40 if you can avoid it) might
    be the cure

    mike
     
    mikeFNB, Jan 7, 2006
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  4. Mike

    Mike Guest

    Not a bad idea, I'll give it a go this weekend. On the whole, I am a bit
    disappointed with the fuel figures for our 1.8 zaf. Its getting mid 30's on
    a 50-55 mph run on cruise. Looked at all the usual, filters, tyres,
    tracking, plugs etc. when we got it was even worse but was quickly sorted
    due to a naffed thermostat not letting the engine warm up so was always
    running rich. (cabin was bloody cold as well!).

    At least if I change the o2 sensor its in a reasonable place, just on the
    manifold, staring you (me) in the face when you lift the bonnet.

    Mike
     
    Mike, Jan 7, 2006
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  5. Mike

    R. Murphy Guest

    Why switch cleaner as opposed to WD40 - does WD40 do something nasty? - the
    reason I ask is I use it all the time, but want to make sure I amnot
    screwing things up ...
     
    R. Murphy, Jan 8, 2006
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  6. Mike

    airsmoothed Guest

    I'm wondering if it's cold weather related, my wife's 1.8 zaf (
    complete with new foglamp bulbs....) seems to have dropped about 10% in
    economy on a run; since the summer months. I'm sad enough to monitor
    my Omega mpg long term, and it always seems to dip a few % in the
    winter, even doing exactly the same commute.
     
    airsmoothed, Jan 8, 2006
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  7. wd40 is oil based and switch ceaner is solvent based oil burns when it gets
    hot and puts a black film on the conecter.
     
    darkwaterblue, Jan 8, 2006
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  8. Mike

    R. Murphy Guest

    Thats great, thanks - and the connector being where it is of course theres a
    risk of the deposit forming and causing problems.

    I spray pretty well everything that looks likely with WD40 under the bonnet
    to avoid salt corrosion etc setting in (I do a lot of mway driving and the
    salt really builds up under there), but I'll watch out for this one, thanks
     
    R. Murphy, Jan 8, 2006
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  9. Mike

    Martin Guest

    I'm curious... I frequently see non-Mways being gritted and salted at this
    time of year - bit scarcely ever see Mways being done. Is this a freak
    experience, or are non-Mways actually a more significant source of corrosive
    salts?

    BTW - one of my justifications for never washing the car is that I don't
    want nasty fresh salt making direct contact with anything metallic... :)
     
    Martin, Jan 8, 2006
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  10. Mike

    Mike Guest

    Well I dont wish to remove the highly complex chemical mix that comprises my
    anti-dazzle coating.

    Mike
     
    Mike, Jan 8, 2006
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  11. Could be simply more fuel needed to get engine up to economic working
    temperature.
     
    Malcolm Stewart, Jan 10, 2006
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