Insurance claim questions?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by si, Mar 20, 2005.

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    si Guest

    My girlfriend just had a small accident in my car (98 Vectra), not a lot of
    damage just front wing , bumper and indicator as far as I can tell. She is a
    named driver on my policy but she also has her own insurance which covers
    her to drive my car. My question is, do I claim on my policy or let her put
    in a claim on hers? Also, the other car driver has admitted fault which I
    have in writting, what is the best way of doing this so that I'm not out of
    pocket with any excess charges?
    Thanx Simon
     
    si, Mar 20, 2005
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    Martin Guest

    Commonly (though getting less common these days) ones own policy includes
    RTA (only) cover to drive other cars with owners permission. But in this
    case, I definitely wouldn't even consider this (and it's probably inoperable
    since Vectra's prime insurance was through you).

    Instead, put it through your own insurance, and use the services of a
    recovery agent/lawyer (which you'll already have if you paid that extra
    tenner at last renewal). They will ensure you make a full recovery - so no
    loss of NCD, no excess, misc costs recovered (phone calls etc) plus relief
    car while yours is off road for repair. Their fees are added to the total
    claim paid by the other guy's insurance.

    But beware - if the other driver has admitted fault - and in writing - s/he
    has probably broken a condition of his own insurance. So I would talk to
    him about not revealing this "admission" - providing his insurance pays up
    (i.e. he admits fault to his own insurers when submitting claim). And you
    always have the written "confession" if he tries to avoid liability.

    You need to end up with a "full recovery" - to safeguard your NCD in future.

    Good luck - and let us know how it goes.
     
    Martin, Mar 20, 2005
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    si Guest

    Thanx for your speedy reply Martin.
    I have just spoken to the guy at fault and he has requested that I get a
    quote for the repair, he is willing to pay without involving any insurance
    company because it will apparently shoot his premiums through the roof (he
    is a taxi driver apparently).
    Would you advise on this or should I play it safe and claim through my
    insurance company? I get a loan car through my insurance which would be
    needed as I need my car for my business.
     
    si, Mar 20, 2005
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    JB Guest

    Always a bit weary of this.... 6 months down the line and something else
    goes wrong with the
    car (may be related) and you've no recourse. Similary, it might not be a
    serious accident but
    what if your girlfriend started getting neck pains in a month or so.... I'm
    not saying it is gonna
    happen but that is why you pay insurance in the first place right....

    The other party has admitted liability so, play safe ! Do it through the
    books so to speak.
     
    JB, Mar 20, 2005
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    Martin Guest

    Tricky - and JB has offered sound advice.

    There's nothing to be gained by stuffing the guy (even if he is a cabby!)
    but you need to know (a) that your repair will be to a high standard - i.e.
    he doesn't get to insist you use "his mate" in a shed round the corner, and
    (b) a relief car can be expensive, and so it may be reasonable for him to
    provide this (cabbies are very well connected for this kind of thing!)
    providing its suitable, reliable and insured for your business as well as
    private use (can you see yourself in a fat 1980s diesel Merc for a few
    days?!) (If you only need transport to and from work each day, maybe he'll
    drive you! Or could you use the GF's car :) )

    I think I'd be inclined to be open with him about your concerns (standard of
    repair, unable to collect Vectra until repair bill paid etc) and see if he
    can offer adequate reassurances. And I'd certainly get a quote, as he
    suggests, to be sure cabby realises how much these things can cost these
    days. He may be shocked.

    Do you use an insurance broker? If so, this is where they can be really
    helpful - talk to them. But if you insure direct, I see no reason for not
    phoning your own insurers (strictly, you are obliged to tell them anyway,
    even if no claim is made) without giving identity of 3rd party, to explain
    that he wants to pay "privately", and how should you protect your position?
    They may be quite helpful - especially if you get someone brighter than a
    call centre operator.

    You won't be able to get a spare car on your policy unless you put a formal
    claim to them - at which point the cabby is facing big costs (assuming full
    recovery) and will prob be better off claiming on his own insurance too. (I
    assume you are certain he is properly insured...?)

    In the ultimate, you really do need to protect your own position (and that
    almost certainly includes keeping your insurers informed) - so if you can do
    this while giving cabby the cheaper option, then fine. BTW, I've often
    found cabbies tend not to get a heavy loading after an insurance claim -
    they prob do 100kmpa and get claims often enough to have no NCB. But your
    taxi driver may be different.

    Keep making notes (timed and dated) of how this progresses, who says what to
    whom etc.) just in case.

    Sorry this is a bit waffley and not the most helpful answer in the world,
    but protecting your position is more important than being "reasonable" with
    the taxi driver - and sadly some people's promises aren't worth the paper
    they're not written on...
     
    Martin, Mar 20, 2005
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    R. Murphy Guest

    First of all I doubt her insurance will cover damage to your car.

    secondly - if the driver admits liability to his/her own insurer, and they
    in turn admit liability to you (they would send a letter to you on their
    clients behalf- you can claim direct off the perpetrator without your
    company paying a bean.)

    Either way you will need your quotes for the damage to send off to whoever

    Thirdly - you car is probably not technically roadworthy with the damage you
    describe, and you will have to address this problem whatever else you do.
     
    R. Murphy, Mar 20, 2005
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    Sitt Guest

    Thanx for your replies guys, all make perfect sense to me.
    R Murphy, you are right with the front indicator sitting on the passenger
    seat the car probably isn't road worthy.
    I will go the insurance claim route.
    Many thanx all
     
    Sitt, Mar 20, 2005
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    M Swallow Guest

    Had excellent experience recently with AutoAssist in Hull.

    My Vectra got hit whilst parked up on my drive - a tesco delivery
    van trying to turn round in neighbours drive. Fortunately I had cctv
    as Tesco constantly tried to deny it!

    AutoAssist provided me with a loan car, liaised with my insurer and
    Tesco's insurer and finally got it sorted (took them 3 months!). In
    the meantime, I had a loan car for one week, whilst mine was collected,
    taken to the body shop, fully repaired and returned to me :)

    Would recommend contacting them - they took a lot of hassle out of
    a nightmare for me and cost me nothing in money or no claims bonus.

    No idea on contact numbers but a google or yell should show them up

    Good luck!


    MS
     
    M Swallow, Mar 23, 2005
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    Rob Guest

    i've got a different tale


    had a taxi driver(private hire) reverse into the wifes punto last year,
    nothing major at all scuffed bumper with a slight ding, luckily enough i
    know a spraypainter(friend of the family) similar to you cabby didnt want
    to go the insurance route,
    The guy was brand new spoke to my sprayer m8 quoted me circa 100 quid to
    repair was a bit cheeky phoned the cab driver 320 quid sorted cash in hand
    20 minutes l had 400 quid thrust in my hand along with a disclaimer
    absolving him from all liability needless to say i made him a brew and
    signed away :)


    dont be too hasty to discount his offer taxi drivers can and do make a lot
    of money, and some have more than the insurance co to worry about(ie is it
    his car or is it a taxi operators car(you claim it prolly comes out his
    wages along with loss of earnings while they fix it

    get a quote or 2 and give him a phone
     
    Rob, Mar 24, 2005
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    Chris Guest

    Hi,

    Here' my 2 penneth worth.

    Just had a very similar situation, other party admitted liability to their
    insurers. My insurers wanted to know that the accident had taken place, but
    because I was third party fire and theft they would not help me and advised
    I contact his insurers directly. I did this and they arranged for hire car,
    repairs etc.

    You must tell your insurers that you have had an accident - if not, and they
    find out, your insurance will be invalidated.

    The Taxi driver needs to tell his insurance company as well - he is taking a
    bigger risk than just increased insurance premiums.

    Chris
     
    Chris, Apr 4, 2005
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    Mike Guest

    I think it is part of terms and conditions that you do this anyhow, but
    AFAIK, it shouldnt affect your premiums unless a claimis made against your
    policy.

    Mike
     
    Mike, Apr 4, 2005
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