How to fit cruise to a Zaf

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Mike, Nov 23, 2005.

  1. Mike

    Mike Guest

    The subject of fitting cruise to a zafira is one that crops up quite
    frequently, and its something that I had been promising myself to have a go
    sometime.

    this picture

    http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=211877&highlight=zafira

    has been posted a few times on this group. If you want to duplicate what I
    managed, then before you spend any money, here is what you look at. remove
    the top half of the steering column shroud. this is done by turning the
    steering wheel 90 degrees, removing the small circular blank plug (if
    fitted) and removing the crosshead screw. turn the wheel 180 degrees and
    repeat at the other side, then straighten the wheel and pop off the top half
    of the cover to reveal the picture in the above link. the plug you neet to
    locate is the one that is wrapped in black plastic insulating tape, then
    secured to the loom with white masking tape. note the tape(s) because this
    is important later. if you havnt got this plug then refit the shroud and
    smile wistfully at the thought of having cruise, because it would be a lot
    of messing about running wires here and there, from switches to the ecu, and
    making sure you got the right wires in the right place. you must want cruise
    pretty bad to contemplate doing all that. anyhow...

    last week some bastich stole the rear wiper arm off our 2000 zaf 1.8
    elegance. While at the the local dealers I decided to ask about the parts
    and feeling flush, decided to splash out on the bits. I bought

    1 replacement indicator stalk with the CC switches on the end. part
    no13142073 cost £27.30 + vat.

    1 clutch pedal switch, part no 90492444 cost £12.65 + vat.

    These prices are retail. if you are in a position to get a trade discount,
    so much the better, but we arent talking about breaking the bank here.

    There has been some mention of differant brake pedal switches. I confirmed
    that there is only one kind of switch fitted.

    once you have the kit, remove the lower half of the column shroud. there is
    one screw underneath holding it on. also two starred screws at the front of
    the shroud that can only be seen with the top half off. however, mine has
    the adjustable column, so if applicable, fold down the adjustment lever to
    reveal a small socket cap screw holding the end fitting in place. remove and
    wiggle the shroud free. next, remove the indicator arm. simply squeeze top
    and bottom and slide out of its fitting, towards the passenger side. no
    screws etc hold it in place. once out, then simply remove (simply remove?
    god, I sound like a haynes manual!!)the plug from the rear of the switch.
    then carefully remove the tape from the unused plug. its a black plug, so be
    sure to get all the black tape off it. plug your new arm in, attatch the
    extra wires, then throw it all back together as above. fiddly parts are
    getting the rubber bellows on the stalks seated right in the shroud, and
    also the rubber grommet around the ignition switch. all this should take you
    15-20 minutes.

    Now comes the fun part. The clutch pedal switch. this is very fiddly to do,
    and you cannot ignore it as apart from it being a safety item, CC will not
    work without it. first remove the lower panel, just above the pedals. there
    are 2 screws in the centre console to undo. next , two odd plastic catches
    along the top of the panel along the seam where it meets the upper panel.
    these look like one piece of plastic overlapping another to produce a 3/4
    inch square. I broke one before I learned the trick was to squeeze the two
    parts together with pliers and pull out. then just pull the panel out. its
    held in place in the back by two big white clips that simply grip it like
    big clothes pegs. After I got this off, I could still see bugger all, so I
    removed the fusebox. still no joy, so I put it back. there is a piece of
    plastic ducting for the ventilation that runs behind the panel. this needs
    to come off. its simply held in place by 1 circular plastic clip at the
    right hand end of the duct.. pull the centre out, then pull the entire clip
    out.. Then wiggle out the ducting out. now you need to see up into the hole
    you have uncovered. try a small mirror if you want. I did, to no avail. only
    practical-but painful-way was to shove the seat all the way back and rest my
    shoulders on the sill with my head between the pedals. first find the
    seating for the clutch pedal switch. this is near the top of the pedal, and
    is a piece of metal with a square cutout, about 15mm square with a cutout at
    one corner. theres a lug on the switch as well, so it will only fit in one
    way. theres the switch body-white, the plunger that is moved by the
    pedal-black, and in between, a large red collar. make sure the collar is all
    the way out, then push the switch into position until it locks in place.
    then push the red collar back into the body of the switch. this expands the
    catches on the body so the switch cannot come out. now you need to find the
    plug that goes in it. I had been about an hour on and off looking for it.
    there is a very thick loom running just behind the lower lip of the upper
    panel (where the lower panel joins on), and I has found a small loop of wire
    by feel, but nothing else. Then I remembered how the unused plug for the
    indicator stalk had been secured with tape, stuck my head under again and
    sure enough there was some white masking tape over black plastic tape. I
    carefully picked this off by feel with fingernails-I didnt even dare
    thinking about going near with a sharp knife- and out dropped the plug!
    after connecting it to the switch, i tried putting it all back together, but
    I was cold, tired, hungry, it was getting dark and no matter what I did, I
    couldnt get the ventilation duct back on. Its now carefully hidden in the
    back of the garage. In about 10 years time I will find it again, and will
    then throw it away with a guilty smile...
    (the lower panel went on just fine though)

    However, after all that, it still didnt work. no big surprise though, as all
    accounts I had come across stated that the ecu needed cruise turning on.
    would have been nice to discover mine didnt though.

    There are a number of main agents within a reasonable distance of me, so I
    started ringing round them, telling them what i was doing, what I had done
    and what I wanted them to do, and how much would they charge. cheapest price
    was @ £35, so the following day I called in to book it in. spoke to the
    service manager, told him EXACTLY what I wanted, and why. He said no
    problem, confirmed the price and said bring it in the following day. did
    this, went through it again, re-confirmed the price, they said give them a
    couple of hours, so I wandered off down town window shopping, etc. 45
    minutes later, got a call from the self same service manager saying that
    because of the parts I had fitted (genuine vauxhall parts from a main agent,
    btw) they would have to reprogram the ecu, not just download the fault
    codes. the cost would be 1 hours labour at @ £85, and did I want to go
    ahead. I told him I wasnt happy with this as I had made it very clear to him
    in person in two seperate conversations what I wanted, and both times
    confirmed the price. It was work that any main agent was capable of carrying
    out, and that I had come to him on the basis of the price he gave me. after
    a bit of huffing and puffing he agreed to do the work for the price quoted.
    7 minutes later he rang again, saying it was done and working.

    so much for 1 hours labour....

    Anyhow , now it works fine, and its all back together (well......).I'll do a
    follow up post if it should crap out .

    An important thing to learn from this is the tech2 bit that cant be done at
    home. ring round. get several quotes. make sure they understand EXACTLY what
    the job is, and why. (when I first mentioned tech2 to the service department
    the first thing they said was what were the symptoms. a couple of places had
    difficulty grasping the concept that there was nothing actually wrong with
    the car. even after the explanations) and confirm the price as often as
    possible with someone more senior than a receptionist whose word could be
    overruled with "...oh, sorry sir, they made a mistake. the actual price
    is...."

    Unfortunately, I didnt take any pictures to post, so you will just have to
    rely on this verbal diatrabe if you decide to try this at home.

    Mike

    BTW, as the zaf is built on an astra platform I would be academically
    interested to find out if this would be do-able with an astra.
     
    Mike, Nov 23, 2005
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  2. Mike

    airsmoothed Guest

    snip..

    Thanks for that MIke; I really must get round to doing this on my
    wife's zafira. Pity my old Omega has got ye olde throttle cable, so I
    can't retrofit CC so easily :-/
     
    airsmoothed, Nov 23, 2005
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  3. Mike

    mark Guest

    Fitted cruise to my 52 zaf last week.

    Didn't have the wires, but it only needed 4 wires running to a multi plug
    behind the glovebox.

    Dead easy when you know the pin numbers.

    I know what you mean about Vaux and the TECH2, I had the same prob
    explaining, but the guy who did it was great and was keen to know how I'd
    'fitted' cruise to it. (suspect a 'barrow' job oppotunity!)

    Anyway, mine is a 1.8 dual fuel and the cruise works fine, so I guess any
    1.8 petrol is possible to fit even without the wires in place.

    If anyone wants to know wheer to run the wires etc just ask.

    Mark
     
    mark, Nov 23, 2005
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  4. Mike

    me140 Guest

    Fitted cruise on my dad's Omega for £30. Got all bits from a breakers yard.
     
    me140, Nov 23, 2005
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  5. Mike

    airsmoothed Guest

    That's interesting me140; I've never owned an Omega with CC, is it
    similar to the old Carlton system, i.e. basically a motor / pulley /
    length of wire attached to the throttle cable arrangement?
     
    airsmoothed, Nov 24, 2005
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  6. Mike

    me140 Guest

    Just the same - motor bolts to the studs at the bottom of the nsf inner
    wing. The big plug should be there. I fitted a stalk, brake light switch and
    as his car was a V6 auto it didn't need a clutch switch. Didn't need
    programming either.
    That's interesting me140; I've never owned an Omega with CC, is it
    similar to the old Carlton system, i.e. basically a motor / pulley /
    length of wire attached to the throttle cable arrangement?
     
    me140, Nov 24, 2005
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  7. Mike

    me140 Guest

    Made a mistake - the motor fits on the osf inner wing just below the coolant
    bottle.
    Got mixed up with my Vectra cos I fitted it on that too and that mounted on
    the nsf inner wing.
     
    me140, Nov 25, 2005
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  8. Mike

    airsmoothed Guest

    Does this Omega CC only work with the V6 engines or will it fit a 2
    litre? I seem to remember that, at least for the early models, only CDX
    trim & above had CC, but you couldn't get a 2 litre with CDX
    trim....maybe...
     
    airsmoothed, Nov 28, 2005
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  9. Mike

    me140 Guest

    I fitted it on my 2.0 Vectra no problem - same engine as the Omega. You just
    need to find a breakers with the bits for an Omega.

    Does this Omega CC only work with the V6 engines or will it fit a 2
    litre? I seem to remember that, at least for the early models, only CDX
    trim & above had CC, but you couldn't get a 2 litre with CDX
    trim....maybe...
     
    me140, Nov 28, 2005
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  10. Mike

    airsmoothed Guest

    OK cheers me140 - I might have aplay over Xmas.
     
    airsmoothed, Nov 29, 2005
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