Cam Belt Broken

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Ivar, Sep 15, 2006.

  1. Ivar

    Ivar Guest

    Hi All

    1997 Astra 1.6 8 valve.
    Cam belt broke while doing high speed. Will this engine suffer any internal
    damage or will a new cam belt fix the problem?
    Hoping for the latter.

    Thanks

    Ivar
     
    Ivar, Sep 15, 2006
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  2. Ivar

    mikeFNB Guest

    it will prob be cheaper to fit a new lump.
    rod pistons valves will prob all be bent/damaged and if something has
    scraped any cylinder even a rebore will not sort it.
    you migt be lucky, but at a high speed as you say i very much doubt it
    there would have been a lot of kenectic energy to get rid of. and quick
    each revolution of the motor after the belt went would of cause untold
    damage.
    even the inspection will prob cost more than the lump is worth

    mike
     
    mikeFNB, Sep 15, 2006
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  3. Ivar

    Mike Guest

    Unless you are going to fit a fresh engine yourself its probably more
    economical to scrap the car. Sad, I know, but these things happen.

    Mike

    BTW the 1.6 is definately an interference engine.
     
    Mike, Sep 16, 2006
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  4. Ivar

    me140 Guest

    I recently bought a 1.6 16valve Astra with a snapped cambelt. Pistons were
    hardly marked and no bore damage at all. Got a 2nd hand head with valves and
    all gaskets were genuine Vauxhall - cost of repair - £138. Bargain. I admit
    my labour is free but it is well worth taking the head off for a look before
    you think about anything else - heads on 8 valves are easy to get off so
    even if you use a garage it won't cost a lot to get an idea of where you are
    going.
     
    me140, Sep 16, 2006
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  5. Ivar

    Guest Guest

    I thought the 8 valve engines would survive a cambelt breaking?
    It might be worth fitting a belt (after getting advice from someone who
    knows these things) and tryng it.
    Dave
     
    Guest, Sep 16, 2006
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  6. Ivar

    adder1969 Guest

    I've had cambelts go on a number of earlier 8v 1.6 and 2.0 engines and
    all were fine with a new belt.
     
    adder1969, Sep 18, 2006
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  7. Ivar

    Ivar Guest

    I've had cambelts go on a number of earlier 8v 1.6 and 2.0 engines and
    Hi.
    Are you saying you have experiance of this and a new belt will fix it.
    That means there is conflicting answers. The car is worth a new belt but not
    really worth a new head. I'll do the belt if it's fairly curtian that this
    type of engine will survive a cam belt breakage.

    Ivar
     
    Ivar, Sep 18, 2006
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  8. Ivar

    Guest Guest

    For the cost of a belt it would be worth a try.
    Check your water pump. I've had a belt break on an old Astra 8v diesel
    that was caused by a knackerd water pump. This engine survived because
    the rockers broke as they were designed to do.
    Dave
     
    Guest, Sep 18, 2006
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  9. Ivar

    mikeFNB Guest

    you indicated you were at speed, thats my worry
    if you were above 40-50 and still accelerating then i would doubt it will be
    ok

    the revs and the kenectic energy from the road wheels through the [still]
    connected gearbox at that kind of speed will do it in for sure.

    the energy has to go somewhere!

    more often than not, low speed/revs, ie pulling away, which seems to be a
    fav time for the belt to go, seem to favour most parts surviving.

    its your choice, but remember, this is a pertol engine anyhow, so a cambelt
    is a pig even to change on a working one!
    let along when you dont even know if things are in the right place in terms
    of alignment/engine cycle to even refit a cambelt.

    mike
     
    mikeFNB, Sep 19, 2006
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  10. Ivar

    adder1969 Guest

    I've done several cambelt replacements on older 8v vauxhalls and could
    do them in about 30 minutes on a good day. Getting to the waterpump
    bolts is a bit fiddly. I've had one go at 90 on a motorway and still
    no internal damage. The key thing here is is this an interference
    engine or not? If not then you're laughing.
     
    adder1969, Sep 20, 2006
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